Dishwasher mistakes
Unfortunately, buying a dishwasher is no guarantee that your kitchen will be clean and tidy. Often, dishes have to be finished by hand, which negates the use of technology. And it’s not even about the brand of the machine or the detergent brand you use. Sometimes people are to blame for the poor performance of the appliance. And here are a few reasons why you might be disappointed with the results.
Mistake 1: stacking dishes too tightly
It is important that the jets of the machine can reach each object. If you try to save too much money by loading the machine to its full capacity, some surfaces will overlap others. Sometimes you hear advice to stack dishes chaotically, which is supposed to promote better water access. But here, too, it’s more important to provide some space. Also, do not put cups and bowls so that dirty water collects in them.
Mistake 2: Not removing food scraps
Although the machine can handle most soiling, food should still be removed from the plate. Especially with certain foods like rice, spinach, pasta and bay leaf. You don’t want to clog the machine with such large waste. Also, it’s best to soak individual dishes, such as a pan that has burned something. But rinsing out your dishes is unnecessary. The machine is able to wash grease on its own. If you have the opportunity to pre-soak all dishes, the machine can be turned on in economy mode.
Mistake 3: loading the machine only half-way
It will not affect the result, but you will spend no less water, electricity and detergents than a full cycle of washing. A half-empty machine is no more efficient than a rationed one. So it’s unlikely you can save money by including a shorter cycle. If possible, run the machine when you have enough dishes.
Mistake 4: Too much salt
Dishwasher salt is used to soften the water. And many people think that the more the better. They combine salt with all-purpose tablets that already contain it. Remember, the amount of salt should be added based on the hardness of the water in your area. If the water is really hard, you might have to add salt all the time. At an average level universal tablets are enough. Soft water combined with salt can cause some foods, such as milk, to leave dirty streaks on dishes. If your water’s soft, use a detergent without salt.
Mistake 5: Using only economy mode
Your dishes may be perfectly washable without the use of high temperatures. But at least once a month you should run a full wash cycle at the highest temperature. Moist warm environment, which is formed in the machine, can cause the development of harmful bacteria and mold. Hot water and an intense wash should do the trick.
Mistake 6: Using old detergents
It seems that dry cleaner can be stored for years. But the ones used in dishwashers have enzymes in them. They become less effective after long storage. Try to use within a year of purchase, even if the expiration date on the package says you can keep it longer.
Mistake 7: putting non-stick coated dishes in the dishwasher
Detergents with abrasive particles and water pressure can cause microcracks in pots and pans. The coating on cookware will gradually deteriorate, so food sticks to it when you’re frying. Therefore, even if your machine has a special mode for washing pans, give preference to manual cleaning.
Mistake 8: Incorrect cutlery placement
How to best place appliances in the basket? If you put them with the handles facing down, you can injure yourself getting them out of the machine. If the handles are upwards they may not wash well. It is best to put forks and cutlery knives upside down and spoons upside down. This keeps the cutlery evenly distributed. The exception is baskets, which have a single type of arrangement. They provide enough space between the cutlery and utensils. But sharp knives and spatulas are best washed horizontally.
Avoid all these mistakes, and very soon you’ll see that the dishwasher is not a luxury. It saves time, effort and money.
How do you use the dishwasher?
Who has a dishwasher, in what condition do you load your dishes in it?? I stack right from the table, removing only the obvious leftovers. My mom rinses under the faucet (without a sponge) and only then loads it into the machine. I think the whole point of using that machine is lost then. What about you??
I’m like you, I shake off large food scraps and load it into the machine. But if my porridge burns, I have to pour water on it and leave it in the sink for a couple of hours. Not enough yet to rinse the dishes before loading.
I’ve had a lot of experience with the dishwasher. You can rinse, you don’t have to rinse before you load it in the washer. It’s all about knowing how to properly care for your machine, take it apart often, clean clogged filters, etc.д. And it also depends on how long you’re going to use it, if you financially can change frequently PM, you can also load it with leftovers. What I’ve concluded is That PMM does not save anything: not water (considering rinsing before loading), not money (considering consumption of consumables). The only and most important plus is that I always have perfectly clean dishes. I can’t do it myself.
I rinse under running water, although the master said it is not necessary.
I have a lot of experience with dishwashing. You can rinse, you may not rinse before loading in the sink. The thing is if you know how to take care of your machine properly, how to take it apart often, how to clean filters and so on.д. And it depends on how long you’re going to use it, if you can afford to change the machine often, you can even load it with leftovers. And in general I have made a conclusion. The washing machine does not save anything: not water (considering rinsing before loading), not money (considering consumption of consumables). The only and most important advantage is that now I always have perfectly clean dishes. I myself am not able to wash like that.
Exactly. ! I hate to clean the filters afterwards.
Like you, I do not rinse.Do your dishwashers wash pots and pans well?? And mine, if the pan after the broth, does not clean, I have to scrub with my hands.
I have a lot of experience with dishwashers. You can rinse, you don’t have to rinse before you put it in the sink. It’s all about knowing how to properly take care of your machine, how to disassemble it often, how to clean clogged filters, etc.д. And it depends on how long you’re going to use it, if you can change the washer-dryer often, you can even load it with the leftovers. And in general, I made a conclusion. The washing machine saves neither water (considering rinsing before loading), nor money (considering consumables consumption). The only and most important advantage is that now I always have perfectly clean dishes. I can’t do it myself.
Can you be more specific? What you’re parsing ? I rinse but not all and clean the filter (external). But still break every 4-5 years. Although I do not buy cheap machines. It’s been a week since it changed again. This one and the last one were Bosch
Like you, I don’t rinse.Do your dishwashers wash your pots and pans so well?? Mine, if the pan is after the broth, does not clean, I have to scrub with my hands.
If it’s burnt, it might not clean. But this is good, even very good.
Guest Like you, I don’t rinse.Do your dishwashers wash pots and pans well?? Mine doesn’t wash out the pan after a broth and I have to scrub it with my hands.If it’s burnt, it might not wash. But it is good, very good.
My porridge occasionally burns, so I wash it twice in the dishwasher: I just leave the pan on the next load. I run the dishwasher every night. I’m too lazy to wash with my hands.
Can you be more precise? What do you take apart? ? I rinse but not all and clean the filter (external). But it still breaks every 4-5 years. Although I do not buy cheap cars. It’s been a week since it changed again. This one and the last one were Bosch
Well, the first one. it’s the filter, of course. The second is the valves that are under the filter. When we live at the cottage, my adult son stays at home. He really likes mayonnaise, and loads dishes with leftover mayonnaise, etc.food. And these valves are malfunctioning. We had to change the first machine because of this, and now my husband takes it all apart and cleans it himself. Sometimes he puts a syringe in these valves with some liberi and it runs the machine again, and it works until the next time. I don’t know much about it myself, of course. The second machine’s been in service for 12 years.
I rinse under running water (which is my idea of cleaning the plate of leftovers) and put it in the dishwasher. Because it is not good to leave the film of sauce, ketchup, mayonnaise, etc. on the plate, first of all quickly the machine will get dirty, and secondly the machine is not always included immediately (during the day, evening doping and overnight running), then just do not wash normally if a few hours stood and dried with sauce on the plate.
In general, I have made a conclusion. That the PM does not save anything not water (given the rinsing before loading), not money (given the consumption of consumables). The only and most important plus is that I always have perfectly clean dishes now. Myself I am not in condition to so wash.
I do not know, we have a clear economy of hot water, the meters immediately saw, and the money is not much bankrupt. We buy the finish, 2.5 kg of powder (worth about 1000 rub) lasts more than six months (about 8-9 months). The salt at once and though more than half of the package goes for 6 months, just rinse a little more than the other consumed, but then again, even for the month the bottle to use unrealistic for 2-3 exactly enough. A year of use had to clean a special agent 300 rubles a bottle for once and that’s because I did not keep track of that salt is over. But it’s my own fault. Since I always rinse filters clean! I check every few months.
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GuestAt all, I concluded. That the automatic dishwasher saves nothing. not water (considering rinsing before loading), not money (considering consumption of consumables). The only and biggest plus is that I always have perfectly clean dishes now. I can’t do it myself.
The hardness of the water is of great importance. The softer the water, the less salt and rinse aid is used. And the machine lasts longer., Almost everywhere, the water is soft, I do not know, we have a clear savings on hot water, according to the meters immediately saw, and the means are not much bankrupt. We buy Finish, 2.5 kilo powder (costs about 1000 rub) lasts more than six months (about 8-9 months). The salt, even if more than half of the packet is used at once, is enough for 6 months, only the rinse aid consumes a little more than others, but then again, even for a month it is impossible to use a bottle for 2-3 months. In a year of use, I had to clean the special detergent for 300 bucks a bottle once and that’s because I did not keep track of the salt. But that’s my fault. I always rinse the filters clean! I check every few months.
We have a Bosch. We’ve been using this clever girl for 16 years. No filters or valves have ever cleaned! Because I rinse and rinse with dishwashing detergent before loading. Because it’s easier to rinse and soap the dishes than to wash them. Either change the machine every 4-5 years, as written above or wash it yourself by hand. It still can’t be cleaned to a crystal shine!
We have Bosch. Been using this clever girl for 16 years. No filters and valves have never been cleaned! Because I rinse and rinse with dishwashing detergent before loading. Because it’s still easier to rinse well and soap up the dishes than. Either change the machine every 4-5 years, as written above or wash it yourself by hand. All the same, to a crystal shine will not work!
That’s why I also think (as I wrote above) everyone sets their own priorities. You said the same thing I did ( post )
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That’s why I also think (as I wrote above) everyone sets his own priorities. You said the same thing I did ( post )
And also. When you bought your old machine 16 years ago it was of much higher quality. There were a lot of European manufacturers. And now it’s all China, and a lot of low-quality consumer goods
Girls, I rinse dishes too and filters are fine.I bake a lot of cakes and ganache, agar, caramel would kill the machine. You didn’t buy it to save water, you bought it to save time.
This is my third dishwasher, I always rinse before putting it in, I don’t want to clog drains.
Also. Earlier, 16 years ago, when you bought your PM, the equipment was of much higher quality. There were a lot of European manufacturers. Now it’s all China, and a lot of low-quality consumer goods
We have a Bosch. We have been using this clever machine for 16 years. No filters and valves have ever been cleaned! Because I rinse and rinse with dishwashing detergent before loading. Because it’s still easier to rinse well and soap up the dishes than. Either change the machine every 4-5 years, as written above, or wash it yourself by hand. It is still not possible to get a crystal shine!
The point of the machine ? You practically wash it yourself ?
I do not rinse anything, I only shake off pieces of food. I clean the filters about once a month. It’s nine years old.
I wash it by hand.)) My husband is vehemently against it. But now that we’re in the house. There’s plenty of room. won’t get away with it.I will buy.What brand of machines you use, share, girls))
Indesit, 7.5 years. Only once something went wrong with it, the master came, disassembled it, replaced something. Periodically I clean filters but not regularly, about once in 1-2 months, the basket for the rest of the food of course more often. When I rinse dishes under running water, more often not. But I always rinse the pot after porridges. Leftovers go in the trash, of course. I wash often, consistently every night, but also during the day for 30 minutes. I also put it in a lot. Of course, it might not wash everything, especially if it’s burnt, or if it’s soupy. But I either wipe with a sponge and everything comes out or leave the pan in the car and it washes out the next time I wash it. Savings with it I do not know what, the main thing I hand wash very rarely and that’s for small things. That’s the most important thing. 1 kg of Finish lasts about 1.5 months. And there’s plenty of salt and rinse aid for longer.
I wash dishes by hand.)) My husband is totally against it. But now that we’ve moved into the house. There’s plenty of room. There’s no getting away from it.I will buy.What brand of machines you use, share, girls))
We bought about a year after the wedding, my husband and did not deny, or he to train, and I’m hands wash the dishes?) I complained a little, quickly bought, and just when the baby was born) I wrote above, I have an Indesit. My parents have an Ariston, my brother has a Bosch, everything works, they were bought at about the same time 7.5 years ago. Take a large, I do not remember how they count 12 or 14 sets. There’s no point in taking on a small family. Sometimes that’s not enough. It’s just that when there’s no car, you eat and wash right away. And with the machine usually a day accumulates dishes, so plates, spoons and forks should be more. And by the end of the day, especially on weekends, there’s a lot of it. But I also turn it on during the day. And at night it’s convenient that the light tariff is cheaper. So check it out. that the delayed start is sure to be.
Who has a dishwasher, in what state do you load dishes in it? I stack right from the table, removing only the obvious leftovers. My mom rinses the dishes under the faucet (without a sponge) and only then loads them into the machine. I think the whole point of using this machine is lost then. What about you??
Throwing out leftovers, not rinsing anything out. I clean the machine once a month.
Works every day. Sometimes I rinse out the dishes, sometimes I just spit (grated carrots from the soup sometimes stick to it), and I shake off the big remnants.I unscrew the filter underneath once a week and clean it with a specially bought toothbrush with Fae.Not dirty, a couple of times there were pieces of 22 mm in size. It’s a bit greasy sometimes. Finish tablets. But I cut them in half. Because the dishes are not very greasy. If it’s after salads or frying, I use a whole tablet. The Siemens is narrow (45 cm). The water is soft, we do without salt.Saves time and my hands. No meters, electricity does not eat much. the iron and even more.I’m happy till I can’t get rid of it.
I wash dishes by hand.)) My husband is totally against it. But now that we moved into the house. There’s plenty of room. can’t turn it away.I’ll buy it.What brand of machines you use, share, girls)) We bought about a year after the wedding, the husband and refused to deny, and then he to train, and I’m hands wash the dishes?) I grumbled a little, quickly bought, and just as the baby was born) I wrote above, I have an Indexit. My parents have an Ariston, my brother has a Bosch, they all work, and they were purchased around the same time 7.5 years ago. Take a large, I do not remember how they are counted 12 or 14 sets. There’s no sense in taking on a small family. Sometimes even this one is not enough. It’s just that when you don’t have a car, you eat and wash right away. And with the machine usually accumulates dishes in a day, so there should be more plates, spoons and forks. And by the end of the day especially on weekends is a lot. But I also run it during the day. And at night it’s convenient that the light rate is cheaper. So take a look. A delayed start is necessary.
thank you.And then there’s this question. my husband’s main thought. It’s not good to take the machine and then wash it again. There are times when you rewash something (other than the fit food and dried dishes).
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Yes, they do. We have a Bosch, a small one, for over 20 years. I don’t understand why they recommend the big one. Probably not used to saving water yet. We have a family of 5 people, the machine is designed for 4 sets, but the set includes a soup plate, plate for the second, dessert, cup, saucer, appliances. We don’t serve it that often, so we have enough. And you don’t have to hoard dishes and run the machine twice a day. Enough space for a tray, filters from the hood, grates from the sink, pots, pans. Everything fits.
I seldom rewash dishes, the rim is sometimes left after the broth and I soak the shit out of burnt dishes, they may not wash out, of course.A spoon once rinsed twice with dried dough. I wash dishes by hand. But that’s rare.I work at home. The baby is small. I am thrilled with my husband’s gift. When guests come over, it takes two hours to wash, but here, you rinse and throw, and turn it on. All day accumulated. run. Beauty.It saves a lot of time.I don’t wash plastic bowls, and pans. too bad, the coating comes off.And my friend with her husband practice. I would rather change the pan than wash with hands =) We have an eco mode with extra rinse in the end, on it all the time. And my husband is always on automatic.
thank you.Also a question. Husband’s main thought. The dishwasher is bad and there’s no point in taking the machine and then rewashing it. Are there times that you rewash something (other than the food and dried dishes).
Sometimes it does not wash well if you stuff it too much dishes, that is, when the top shelf pots, cooks, lids from pots, cups. piled on top of each other) It happens.) But it is good, even if something does not wash, understand the dirt is so steamed that just a sponge under running water immediately washed away. That is, it does not even deserve a discussion) What is it to polish the handles of pots and lids, I already do not remember! If you wash it with your hands, you’ll waste a lot of time.Your husband is categorically wrong. It’s just as convenient as a washing machine. Yes, even if something won’t wash, what’s your husband, I don’t think he will finish it if anything. Mine doesn’t even bother with these things. When ours went bad, he told me right away. You look on the internet for another one if you can’t get it fixed by a handyman. We’ll get a new one. In our family, there has not even been such a question for a long time who and how will wash dishes. No one is interested in this question as well as who will do the laundry. Machines do it all!But take a large one, as written above for 4 sets of car. it’s nothing! There should be plenty of room in there. It’s convenient for the family. It’ll be the size of a normal washing machine.
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These formulas fall into 3 main categories:
The choice of a particular option is determined by the manufacturer’s guidelines. The tablets are only needed at the rate of 1 dish per wash. However, practice has shown that powders and gels are much more economical. You must understand that too cheap reagents do not guarantee good quality of washing by definition. On the contrary, if the goal is to provide a very high quality work, will have to incur additional costs.
This does not mean that the most expensive product is always the best. You just need to remember that only preparations of middle price group work optimally. The rest depends on personal priorities. Sometimes the right decision can only be made after a number of private samples. It is desirable to be guided by the reputation of a particular manufacturer. only products of well-known brands are able to give a decent result.
It is useful to pay attention to the reviews. And it is advisable to study them on several independent resources at once. The type (form of preparation) is chosen individually for each person. Every person’s habits are markedly different.
If you don’t have any experience, you need to try different versions.
It is also necessary to pay attention to the chemical composition of reagents. It is worth to get acquainted with the action of each substance added there. In addition, it is necessary to take into account the degree of safety of reagents. Incorrect choice threatens not only people but also the dishwashers themselves. Do not think that the more substances, or the higher their concentration. the better.
Tablets do not always manage to fully dissolve in a short wash cycle, some older machines simply can not handle them properly. This means that the composition is not fully used. The efficiency of its work decreases. The powder can be sprinkled rather easily.
Specialists consider gel mixtures to be the most practical solution.
Additional
Theoretically, it is possible to use the dishwasher without salt when not the powder, but the gel or tablet is used. But all experts strongly recommend the addition of regenerating salts always. Otherwise the limescale will spread very intensively. Additional rinse aid is required. These additives give shine and freshen up the dishes.
Maximum results are achieved when cleaning glassware. Wine glasses and goblets wash best with salt. But before its first loading it is required to fill the ion-exchange compartment with water. Remove excess salt with a sponge.
There is no need for such a procedure for subsequent starts.
Salt rejection and limescale deposits result in higher current consumption. It will be used less effectively and the wear and tear of the components will increase. That’s why saving on salt additives is illusory. Although dishwashing salt and cooking salt are similar in composition, they are not interchangeable. Food spice can cause damage to dishwashers because of impurities and hard abrasive particles.
Not only that, but the granule sizes can vary. Furthermore, the dishwashing salt has to be cleaned much more thoroughly. Cooking salt can be used only in the most extreme cases as a temporary measure. And even in this case it is not recommended to fill the compartment 100%.
In addition to the softener and rinse aid, there is also the need for a refresher.
Clogged dishes become a breeding ground for all kinds of microbial colonies. After flushing, food debris is not killed, but only migrates to the machine itself. There the microorganisms also find favorable conditions for reproduction. This leads not only to a bad smell, but also to serious hazards to humans. fresheners become a substitute for antiseptics; they eliminate microflora and therefore suppress unpleasant odors, while special additives create an attractive fragrance.
Main function of the rinse aid
Let’s see how the rinse aid works inside the dishwasher. Firstly, it removes dirt from the dishes by soaking them in water and rinsing them under high pressure. In the water, which is heated to a high temperature, the chemicals dissolved powder or tablets. Under the action of these substances, dirt is dissolved and drains. Poorly dissolved detergent particles can remain on dishes and cutlery, in addition, there are often stains from hard water.
At this point, the rinse aid comes in, containing special additives that soften the water, weaken the tension of the water molecules, and the drops easily run off the surface of objects, washing away all the stains. These products are safe for health, will not affect the taste while eating. But the result of washing will please you, such a shine of cutlery and especially glass glasses to achieve manual cleaning is difficult enough.
In this way, the rinse aid for the washing machine performs several important functions at the same time:
- Neutralizes particles of alkali, acid, and other chemicals in dishwasher detergents, be they gels, powders, or tablets, washing them off the surfaces of objects and dishwashers;
- It removes all kinds of odors, grease residue and other dirt;
- Prevent the formation of lime film and streaks on glassware, porcelain metal dishes, giving them a nice shine;
- shortens the time during the drying phase;
- protects the inner surface of the dishwasher from limescale, and the heater from limescale, which prolongs the life of the “home helper.
It isn’t a good idea to refuse the rinse aid. after all, dishwasher manufacturers have built in a special compartment for this dishwasher by accident.
Yes you can operate the appliances by washing dishes without rinse aid. But the quality of such a wash will be very poor. Wine glasses and beer mugs need to be shined by hand, rubbing them with a soft kitchen towel, because you are unlikely to be satisfied with streaks and water stains.
Dishwasher usage rules
The unit should be loaded with dishes, cutlery and other kitchen utensils strictly in the appropriate baskets and trays. Large items are usually placed at the bottom of the dishwasher, with small items placed on top.
Forks, spoons, knives are placed separately, and if the machine does not have such a tray, it is better to buy it yourself and complete the washing chamber.
Powder (gel, tablets) for washing, rinse aid and salt should also be poured into special compartments, specifically designed for each component separately.
Here are some more recommendations for using the dishwasher:
- Before loading dishes into the dishwasher, they must be cleaned of food residue;
- do not place the utensils too close to each other and do not overload the receptacles, otherwise you may get a poor quality of washing;
- Long objects (ladle, spoon and others) should be placed horizontally;
- There are separate trays for sharp-nosed items, including knives, and you should use them as intended;
- Before you press “start”, you have to choose the right mode and check that the blades are moving freely.
Opening the door while the dishwasher is running will disrupt the entire programmed wash process. But you will not be so easy to do it. To avoid unforeseen situations, many modern devices of this type have appropriate interlocks.
When the dishwasher automatically shuts down:
- If there is no access to electricity (burned fuse, damaged electrical cable, etc.);
- The machine will not start if the washing chamber door is not properly closed. you must try to close the machine again;
- when the hose is clogged or there are problems with the aquasensor (in the first case, it needs to be cleaned, in the second. perhaps change the washing mode);
- when the aquastop is triggered. check the appliances for leaks.
The dishwasher may generate error codes for these and other washes. All of this is indicated in the instructions and regulations for the use of each unit.
Before using, you need to study all the recommendations from the manufacturer and follow them. so the dishwasher will last longer.
Opinion of hostesses who close the machine
To understand which of the two camps is closer to the truth, you need to read the arguments of both. Try to deal with them and then draw conclusions. Here’s what proponents say to close the machine after washing.
- First, after the purchase and installation of the PM, water is found inside. In the store it stands closed, but after opening the door at home there is no trace of mold or unpleasant odors. So, there is nothing to worry about.
- When washing, various household detergents are added to the machine, usually powders. If the machine is used infrequently, chemical residues will invariably remain inside, but nothing will happen to them in the remaining water and they will be suitable for further use. And if you open the door, everything just sticks to the walls.
- Kitchens in small apartments are not very roomy, and if you open the dishwasher, there will be no room to turn around. Surely the manufacturers have made sure that this would not be necessary.
- Some models have a light that comes on when you open the door. As long as the door is open, the light is on.
The above opinions may well be called rational. But let’s not jump to conclusions. Now let’s move on to the arguments made by housewives who prefer to air out the dishwasher.
Dishwasher (who has one? Please answer the question)
Happy dishwasher owners, a question for you. Please describe step by step the process of washing the dishes in the machine (by analogy with the washing: poured the clothes, even in color or fabric composition, poured ONLY the powder or powder in one compartment and rinse aid in another, turned on the program).waiting for results). I’ll explain why I do it. т.к.I have never had a dishwasher. I don’t understand what’s wrong with dishwashing detergents? Someone writes about some pills, someone about some salt (this is the usual household salt?) Some people talk about the powder. Here and I would like to understand how many sections of the dishwasher for detergents and that of the means to sprinkle (put) necessarily, and what is not necessarily. Well as again, by analogy with the laundry. Mash-powder/gel for washing is mandatory, and all sorts of rinses-lenurs they are at the pleasure of the hostess.п.с. And who can also answer this question. If you use a dishwasher, do you think you can use it without any chemicals at all? products? or for example in place of a chemical. Do you can put baking soda or mustard in the water?? or the principle of operation of the machine is such that in principle nothing but chemicals can be used?
You’re so fancy. I buy a pack of something 3-in-1. I add salt and that’s it!
If without it and just with water. then the cups remain cloudy.
The dishwasher requires: 1) special salt to soften the water, 2) dishwasher rinse aid (the last stage of washing), 3) detergent (in the form of tablets). For all these products there are special compartments. There are tablets that combine three of these remedies at once. т.н. 3 in 1, but personally I do not like them if all separately. the effect is better.
You can not put baking soda or mustard, because. machine will fail. The tools should be exclusively special.
About. is it possible to do without something. I think you can do without a rinse aid, in the extreme case, and without detergent, too, but you can not do without salt. Scale builds up.
Means. It is obligatory to use, otherwise the machine will rot, and the dishes will probably be under-washed. Powders, tablets. break down the remains of food. I have a Bosch machine, it is the simplest. Before each wash, I put in a tablet (there’s a similar powder. there is a special compartment for it). This is for the dishwasher itself. Every 3-4 months, I also add a special salt (there is also a compartment for it in the “floor” of the machine). This is for the machine itself. There is also a hole for a rinse aid (with it the dishes are completely dry). I refill it from time to time. There is no way to get it without chemistry, as it consumes minimal water and washes the dishes to a store shine.
There is a special salt for the machine which must always be used. You can’t swap it for anything else. It is not expensive. And people pick up detergents themselves: either multi-tablets (they already contain both powder and glass cleaner), or simple tablets, liquid cleaner for shine.
I use Finish multi-tablets myself. Without chemicals you can put the rinse mode. For the other programs, you need chemicals. Why put mustard?
There are even these. Who is so wilted by idleness, answers
Girls who write why. Did you read the subject?? If you read it, please answer the question.
Do not use baking soda or mustard because. The machine will break down. The means should be exclusively special.
And why, if it’s not a secret. because baking soda is the same as bleach. Right? The car is from the specials. detergent does not fail.
There is a special salt for the machine which must always be used.
If you know, please explain what kind of salt is “special” there is a special composition. or is it just salt ?
Silent horror. Mustard in the dishwasher. I am shocked.
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The silent horror. Mustard in the dishwasher dishes. I’m shocked.
It’s not quiet, it’s a nightmare. MUSTARD. I wonder how many more dullards will answer this one.
If you know, can you tell me what kind of salt is “special”? or it’s just salt ?
I read it on the package. the Finish dishwasher detergent is 99.9% pure salt. Attention! Salt is not suitable for eating. To wash dishes in dishwashers can not use table salt. its chemical composition can cause damage to the water softener and ruin the machine.
I just put the dishes in the machine, put a 6-in-1 tablet and that’s it. Clean utensils (no tea leftovers and other stuff), glasses. shiny, pans, pots and pans. shiny. The machine doesn’t complain either, and works great.
Why are you picking on salt?A kilogram of this salt costs 100 (packet) and lasts for half a year. You’re better off washing with your hands and a squeeze.))
My dishwasher cleans worse with tablets than with salt, detergent and rinse aid separately.
If you know, please explain what kind of salt is “special” there is a special composition. or is it just salt? ?
I just read specifically on the packaging. Dishwasher detergent Finish special salt is 99.9% pure salt. Warning! Salt is not suitable for eating. Do not use table salt in dishwashers. Its chemical composition can cause damage to the water softener and ruin the machine.
I have a worse detergent with tablets than if I buy salt, detergent and rinse aid separately.
I’ve already read about the tablets, too. In all articles (official) write. that the tablets are a universal means (as in a kind of emergency) is better to use all separately.
DEVO CHICKEN DOORS. ALL THOSE WHO ARE SO OUTRAGED. I do not care about the price (I do not know these nuances because of the price), but because of the possibility of not using chemistry for the next time at home. I hope this is a comprehensive answer and no more Комментарии и мнения владельцев in the vein of “oh my God, why is it done, what barbarians are barbarians!”will not.
I just put the dish in the machine, put the tablet 6 in one and that’s it. Clean dishes (no tea leftovers and other stuff), glasses. shining, pans, pots. shiny. The machine does not complain either, and works great.
I’m happy for you )))) I would also like to join civilization) but I want to use as little chemicals as possible. That’s why I created the topic.
Damn, you do not want to use chemicals in the home-rinse in the hole in the river and rub the dishes with sand! Never tried it?They want to avoid using dishwashing and chemicals! How do you make soda? Does it grow on trees??
And also tell me, what configuration of nets in the car to choose. It’s written everywhere that you have to pay special attention to that.
I use 3-in-1 tablets, I don’t even know where to put them all individually. It cleans everything perfectly, especially in all kinds of “nooks and crannies” under the lids, where the handles are. etc.But we live alone, so I only turn it on if I’m cooking that day and there are a lot of pots and pans.Soda and mustard I think you can not, because they can corrode the hoses or not flush all the way out of the drain. I’ve tried to wash without anything at all.It doesn’t wash well. One thing I do not like, you need to have a lot of dishes throughout the day not to wash, and put in the machine.
Man, you do not want chemistry in the home-rinse in the hole in the river dishes and rub sand! We’ve never tried it?They want to do both the dishwasher and not use chemicals! How do you get baking soda? Does it grow on trees??
The dishwasher cleans with the exact detergent that’s prescribed for it! And please drop the “as little chemicals as possible” nonsense. And if you can’t do otherwise Read Lera’s advice!
You’re not trying to replace the acid in the car battery with green tea or use milk instead of gasoline?
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I use 3-in-1 pills, I don’t even know where to put them all individually. Washes everything out great, especially in all sorts of “nooks and crannies” under the covers, where the handles. and so on.But we live at home, so I only turn it on if I’m cooking that day and there are a lot of pots and pans left over.I think you can’t use baking soda and mustard because they might eat up the hoses or not wash out the drain completely. I’ve tried cleaning without anything at all.It doesn’t clean well. One thing I don’t like, you have to have a lot of dishes that you don’t wash during the day, but put in the machine.
Have you tried just dishes or pots and pans without anything else?? It probably won’t wash pots and pans without any chemicals. It is better to use all of them separately?
If you don’t need any chemicals, use mustard in a basin. And if you want to reduce the chemistry to a minimum when using a dishwasher.Buy a machine with an extra rinse program after the main program, preferably with warm water.(just a rinse program in every machine, so the dishes won’t dry out while you’re picking them up during the day).) I have been using it for six years.-Satisfied.
I have been using it for six years. Then there is another option: use less powder, it is easier to dose than tablets.
I’ve already read about tablets, too. all the (official) articles say. pills are universal tools (like emergency cleaners), it’s better to use them all separately.
I have not read that anywhere. The tablets. It’s an all-purpose dishwasher detergent. You put one in and you don’t have to worry about it. I can not complain about the quality of washing. Everything’s washed, shiny, no streaks, etc.д. and t.п. And it is with pills do not need to worry with the dosage and other nonsense.
and tell me what kind of configuration of nets in the machine to choose. It’s written everywhere that you have to pay special attention to it.
I mean, the grids? If we are talking about these “horns” for plates, it is better if the bottom basket these horns will be folded, then the pots, pans, other cumbersome stuff will fit nicely.
And also tell me, what configuration of grids in the machine to choose. It’s written everywhere that you have to pay special attention to this.
I mean, the grids? If we are talking about these “horns” for plates, it is better if the bottom basket of these horns will be folded, then the pots, pans, other bulky stuff will fit nicely.
Well, yes, I meant under the grids, what are rammed into the plates, forks, spoons, pans.
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I’ve already read about the tablets, too. All the (official) articles say. the tablets are an all-purpose cleaner (as a kind of emergency cleaner), but it is better to use them all separately.
I haven’t read that anywhere. Tablets. It is an all-purpose dishwashing detergent. If you put one in, you don’t have to worry about it. I can’t complain about the quality of the wash. Everything’s washed, shiny, no streaks, etc.д. etc.п. You don’t have to worry about the dosage.
The three-in-one ╚ agents are very convenient to use.к. They contain detergent, rinse aid and regeneration salt. However, like any all-in-one solution, using ╚three-in-one╩ products imposes a number of limitations. Tablets containing rinse aid are not fully effective in all dishwashing programmes. for example, they may not produce the desired effect with automatic or short-run washing programmes. The amount of regeneration salt in the product is designed for some average water hardness. If the water in your area is more hard or, conversely, soft, using tablets is undesirable. Now on the market there are dishwashers with special programs, maximally adapted to the use of tablet detergents. Some manufacturers (AEG, Electrolux) have a special setting function for any ╚three-in-one╩programs.
Who has dishwashers?? It’s really made your life easier?
Which brand?? Power-consuming? Special detergents are economical to use? Isn’t it a pain to load/unload.Generally better than by hand?
I have one, my husband has one. No. I’m sick of washing dishes at his place. When we have dinner at my place, I throw everything in the dishwasher, wipe the table with a rag and we all relax together, but otherwise we either have to go and wash the dishes instead of relaxing or leave them in the sink to sour. In short the horror for me
Yeah, it’s like a washing machine, I can’t imagine life without it anymore
Yeah, it made it easier. Bosch. I load at night.
At first I could not put the dishes in it properly, nothing fit, it was 45 cm. Then I got the hang of it, and it got easier. I’m getting a big one for the country house. 60cm. I have Bosch, a regular one, I got it for about 11k in stock I think. Beauty, the kitchen is always in order, washes at night, during the day is forced by dishes just and all. To wash dishes by hand already seems to be a wild thing.
Yes, it saves an hour a day, at that everyone washed dishes by himself) the firm Bosch. On electricity at all is not noticeable. noticeable on water. less wasted). tablets. I can’t get anything to the sink. As for the dishwasher)
Dishwasher is, Bosch, the power eats a little, less water than wash hands, and hands you never so wash dishes as a machine) Tablets for washing do not enter into the expense, for 10 years, not once broke, although I wash every day)) Unload. load. It takes 1 to 2 minutes
Only on Woomen can you read such an idiotic question.
Same thing, the machine Bosch, 60 cm, was advised on Wumen what to buy, advised this. Very economical, I use Finish powder. But even if it was not economical, I would not switch to handwashing, you get used to a good thing fast.
It’s a super thing. Every day I say thank you :). If you don’t buy that disgusting Finish or whatever. advertised remedies. The rest of the car care products are inexpensive. I, for example, use Mein Liebe powder. One washer costs 6. Power consumption is very low
Dishwasher Miracle. We have a Bosch full-size
You can be happier?
Have it all and be happy?
I’ve got an empty one. or rather. I keep a pot in it. I don’t use it. there’s two of us adults. I don’t cook a lot. just something so special. I read it and I don’t know how to start using it. I think it’s more work when there are two of us. There would be five or six people in the family. Then yeah. but otherwise. my husband and I. I’m not even getting started.
We have a Siemens, it’s completely silent. Dishwasher in the house does need, as well as the washing machine.
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I have an empty one. or rather. I keep a pot in it. I don’t use it. There’s two of us adults. I don’t cook much. Just something so special. I read and do not know how to start using. I feel like there’s more work with it when there’s two of us. if there were five or six people in the family. then yes. And that’s just for my husband and me. I’m not even starting.
And what a job it is? It’s just me and my husband. The dishwasher is 60 centimeters. I turn it on every night.
I have an empty one. or rather. I keep a pot in it. I don’t use it. We’re two adults. I don’t cook much. Just something so special. I’m reading and I don’t know how to start using it. I feel like it’s more work when there’s two of us. There would be five or six people in the family. Then yeah. But that’s okay. on my husband and me. I don’t even start.
You’re very strange. I’m alone and I still use it all the time. the point of washing with your hands? Who has at home of dishes, 2 mugs, 2 plates, then of course there is no point, because before you eat need to wash, but if you have enough dishes, then a day, maximum 2 days will still build up, even if you live alone.
I live alone. And I use the dishwasher. Once a day or once every two days
Best thing in the house, after the washer, of course.)
45cm Whirlpool, better than my hands by aaaaaaaaaaaa lot!
My husband bought a Bosch dishwasher after 5 years of washing dishes by hand. I’m sick of cleaning )))). It was his main duty in the family. Now, in the evening, with an easy move of her hand, she pours the rinse aid, puts the tablet in, presses the button and voila!! I was vehemently opposed to buying this shaitan-machine until I saw the dishes it washed. You can NEVER wash them by hand! I mean crystal vases and salad bowls, sets with a lot of reliefs, where you can’t wash off the dust and food caught in the narrow grooves, it’s extremely difficult.
Yeah, really makes it easier, I only wash in the dishwasher now.What kind of company?? BekoMunition burns a lot of electricity? LittleSpecialty detergents used sparingly? Yes Isn’t it a hassle to load/unload. No, it’s not. It’s better than using your hands? Much better
For example, how long does it take to wash plates and if the pans are greasy, it takes longer to select the mode ?? All together you can put pots and pans too. Probably wait two hours ??
Electrolux compactVERY helpful costs are on the internet, is it difficult for you to look at the same Yandex-market? Even the programs are listed, if difficult, I will say that the increased energy consumption directly on the bill has not noticed, the water is spent less than your hands do not have to wipe everything around, as after washing your hands
Bosch is a little uncomfortable. control panel at the bottom
You can do it all together. from 1h 10min, to 1.40. as you like.Why wait. on overnight. and sleep
I have been using it for over 20 years.к. Moved in and bought new ones.I often use the short mode of 30 minutes. Why spend hours on it?
My kids grew up without washing dishes by hand and once they got separated, they got dishwashers too.For me. Washing dishes by hand is equivalent to going to wash bedding in the river in the winter.
That’s my comfort! the man bought for March 8. I hate doing dishes! And now I forgot to think how it is. soap the sponge) And cook more often. for there is no longer this crushing reluctance, that after cooking have to wash a mountain of pots and pans. If your salary is not 15,000 rubles.р. a month, then the waste of electricity and funds are not noticed at all. What is it. 300 p. for 20-30 capsules. Т.е. buy once every half a month)) Nonsense!) And the free time and the joy of cooking in the kitchen many times more!))It’s worth it!)
I do not keep crystal. I agree that you can’t wash crystal like that with your hands. And all services are embossed. Madonnas of all sorts. I gave it out to my friends. I got over it once a few years ago.I want simplicity and elegance. I have a modern interior, all the dishes. White designer, simple shapes, and some dishes. I can’t imagine washing once a day. It’s disgusting to know that it’s dirty, even if it’s closed. That’s the main reason. Why didn’t I ever use the machine? in the morning. Two cups and two plates. during the day. We have lunch at work. if it’s the weekend. grill something or cook something special. then of course there’s more dishes. but I’m already in the habit of washing everything at once. I don’t add up. I like my kitchen to be free of surfaces. it’s all cleaned up. Although after reading the forum, I’ll probably start trying again. I’ve got guests coming this weekend, I’m gonna try to put all the glasses in there.
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I’ve been using it for over 20 years.к. moved around and bought new ones.I often use the short mode of 30 minutes. Why spend hours racing?
The kids have grown up without washing dishes by hand, and as soon as they separated, they got dishwashers, too.For me. washing dishes by hand is equivalent to going to wash bedding in the river in winter.
That’s a good comparison. small river in winter. I laughed. But I disagree. The river is cold in winter. It’s hard to carry laundry. and here. Everything is at your fingertips. just might be true. different lifestyle. I do not make dumplings. Got rid of a lot of dishes and unnecessary items in the kitchen. made room. I like that everything is under control. and before there were all sorts of sets on the shelves. Now I’m thinking what was it all for. what sets. bought a set of saucepans made of special steel. Over 1000, but there are 3 pots and 2 small pans. Then I bought a big frying pan. Like a Chinese “wok” from the same set. Out of 3 pans, I use two. Third. huge. for pasta. Stopped eating pasta altogether, only if in a restaurant somewhere. main wash. are the spoons and forks. I’ll load the glasses in there tomorrow. forum persuaded.
I agree with all the positive Комментарии и мнения владельцев. I love my dishwasher (Bosch). Thanks to her, I have all the dishes, as if they were just out of the store. I do not use pills but powder, as the master said. Said pills have a lower concentration of detergent. machines break down faster and they say that is the manufacturer’s goal (for everyone to hurry up and buy new ones). I don’t know if it’s true but I am personally happy with it.
I agree with all the positive Комментарии и мнения владельцев. I love my dishwasher (Bosch). It’s the only reason I have ALL my dishes as fresh out of the store. I don’t use pills, but a powder, as the master advised. Said the tablets have a lower concentration of detergent. machines break down faster, and they say that this is the whole calculation of manufacturers (so that everyone ran to get new ones as soon as possible). I don’t know if it’s true, but personally I’m happy with it.
By that logic, they should break down more often
For me, the biggest plus is the ability to wash pots, pans, all sorts of forms from the oven, removable parts of the coffee maker, blender, and immediately on top to load glasses and flutes from under juices and wine. My husband never washes dishes after himself, not even one plate or glass, he just puts them in the machine and nothing stays in the sink until the evening, and everything is always clean and tidy.
No, the detergent contains something that dissolves protein residue, and the machine runs easier. In the powder it is so, “mono”. It’s all about dissolving it. And the tablet has three components. like there’s something in it for the shine, the wash, and the “healing” of the machine itself. This leaves a third of what’s really needed. Of course, I use conditioner and special salt.
I’ve had a dishwasher for over 20 years, but I don’t use it very often. When the hot water is turned off (now stopped) and when I am away, my men accumulate a sink of dishes. Well, sometimes after a lot of guests.
I can’t imagine my life without a dishwasher. Main. not to save time or make things easier, because I’ve always washed everything very quickly, but MY HANDS!! My skin has finally stopped peeling and cracking, and my manicure at least lasts a week, whereas the eternal dishwashing was a nightmare
No, there’s something in the detergent that dissolves protein residue, and the machine runs easier. It’s so “mono” in the powder. that’s what it’s all about. And the three-component pill. Like it has something for shine, and for washing, and “therapeutic” for the car itself. The result is that what is really needed is one-third of what is needed. Of course, I use conditioner and special salt.
So once every few months you have to run it through with a special powder. You won’t have a problem with whatever you use. I take half a tablet. It’s a small machine
I read that some heating element breaks in a Bosch appliance. And the repairs are expensive. No one’s come across it?
No, my Boshik has been running like clockwork for four years.
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Yes, made it easier. Bosch. Overnight loading.
However, the pills aren’t cheap. Calgonite Finish almost 300 p. for 14 grand.
I read that a heating element breaks in a Bosch machine. And the repairs are expensive. No one has come across?
Every machine has a heating element, not just the Bosch. It’s a water heater.
However, the pills aren’t cheap. Calgonite Finish almost 300 p. for 14 grand.
Buy less fancy ones, they cost 10 or less per pill. If you use salt, powder and rinse aid separately, it’s even cheaper.
I have been using mine for 5 years now!Electrolux, energy and water consumption. I have no idea.I use tablets.I load it once a day, overnight.So accustomed to it that we even bought the first thing in the cottage for the new kitchen. dishwasher.Dishwashing. I hate! And it saves a lot of time! Loading the machine. 3 minutes, unloading. either. And everything’s clean!
It facilitates, and how! I do the dishes in a day, turn them on at night.In practice, it’s more profitable to buy tablets in Finland (if you’re there). The big box there is a little more expensive than the small one we have.
And we had hot water shut off for three weeks this summer (they’re replacing the pipes). That’s where you can’t do without a dishwasher and a washing machine. No expense spared on consumables.
I do not see the point in dishwashers. I’ve been accustomed since childhood not to hoard dishes all day, and immediately wash them after themselves
Yeah, it makes it easier. Those who don’t see the point in dishwashers simply do not know what it is.
I read that some sort of heating element breaks in a Bosch dishwasher. And the repairs are expensive. No one’s come across?
The pills aren’t cheap, though. Calgonite Finish is almost 300 bucks. For 14 pieces.
I buy in Finland and Estonia, it’s three times cheaper, and since my machine is a small Bosch, I use half a tablet.
I’ve got. I don’t really care about the cost of maintenance. it is quite a reasonable price not to wash with hands. I bought it and have no regrets.
Who has a Bosch 45cm for 9-10 sets, what’s the deal with washing pots and pans?? Can a big 5 liter pan fit in there or can you put a few pans in it?frying pans at one time to load?
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Dishwashing with certain limitations
There are a number of materials that can be used in the dishwasher, but with certain limitations. For example, maintaining a gentle temperature regime, refraining from hot or long drying times, choosing the right detergent and neighbouring with other dishes. The following products and materials should be used with caution in the dishwasher.
Clay pots
Clay dishes can only be washed gently, and only those with a protective coating. The porous material does not tolerate hot steam, vibrations and aggressive detergents. With frequent use, the glossy layer disappears and the surface becomes micro-cracked. Chemical detergents easily penetrate and get stuck in the damages of the clay layer, the dishes become dangerous to use.
With knives, graters, and other cutting utensils, everything is ambiguous. If there is a special compartment for them, household knives can be washed in the dishwasher, except for products with wooden handles. Without the insulating tray the sharp blades can damage the internal surfaces of the machine itself, damage the nearby table items, hurt yourself by careless removal of dishes.
Keep in mind that knives will blunt from being exposed to high temperatures and will need to be sharpened often. Carbon steel will eventually exhibit rust. Do not load silver knives and chef’s cutting professional tools, which over time will lose the ability to sharpen perfectly.
Enameled
Enamel protects pots, pans, saucepans, and ladles from damage, but the layer itself needs to be treated with care. It is no secret that enamel chips on impact, it can also be damaged by frequent exposure to hot and vibrating environments. Enamelled pots and pans are put in the bottom basket of the dishwasher, because they are heavy.
Use the modes recommended by the manufacturer. If there are no special designations, you should use the programs with the average temperature. Powders choose mild, without alkalis and other harsh elements, but designed for dishwashers.
Other
In addition to common kitchen utensils, it is possible to use the PM to perform hygienic procedures for other household items.
- Hood grids. The grid gets greasy very quickly and is difficult to wash by hand. Not every filter can be put in the dishwasher. In PM only grills that do not contain aluminum are washed.
- Tray. If it fits in the dishwasher, it’s better to machine wash it than to use abrasive brushes to get rid of burnt grease. Aluminum products are an exception.
- Blender. You can wash the appliance in the automatic dishwasher, but not all its parts. If you don’t want to take care of it manually, you’ll have to take it apart. It is necessary to separate the base from the bowl, remove the knife and put away the rubber gasket. you can not put it in the machine. When the other parts have been machine washed, the blender needs to be reassembled.
- Grill. After cooking, it leaves behind burnt fat on the grill which is difficult to remove. Many people do this with a dishwasher, thinking that the non-stick layer on such items will not last long anyway, even if washed by hand, so why bother. But the grid made of cast iron or steel, if you use a PM, will quickly fall into disrepair, so care should be taken in the care of.
- Teflon. Teflon cookware can be washed in the dishwasher on request of the manufacturer (if marked with an approval sign). Other utensils with non-stick coating, which sellers pass off as Teflon, should be washed by hand, as the protective layer suffers from prolonged exposure to hot water and household chemicals.
