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LG Gram 17 review (17Z90Q model- 12th gen Core i7-1260P)
Review by: Andrei Girbea Andrei Girbea, Editor-in-Chief. I’ve a Bachelor’s in Computer Engineering and I’ve been covering mobile technology since the 2000s. You’ll mostly find reviews and thorough guides written by me here on the site, as well as some occasional first-impression articles.
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Out of 16 GB RAM how much is permanently taken by the integrated graphics card? LG claims that touchpad is not glass.
Another point i think a 1240P and a bit less would work well since appears that 1260P goes over the chassis cooling capacities.
Hi Andrei, thank you very much for this review. I’m currently undecided whether I should buy the 16 17-1260P 16GB 512GB version that is currently on sale with discount on my country. The big screen on a small weight is very appealing for a laptop, however I can’t help but feel the battery runtimes are underwhelming, considering LG promises to deliver up to 20,5h of video playback, I would have expected the 15 W (~5-6 h of use) – browsing in Edge, Normal Balanced Mode, screen at 60%, Wi-Fi ON to provide at least 7/8 hours of battery runtime, in other words last a full work day. I’m tempted to buy it because there’s nothing quite as lightweight in the competition and there is a discount, but at fair price I don’t think it’s still very worth it.
That was a bit high, but within expectations for a 1260p with a 17-inch display. Our Browsing test is rather heavy, as it keeps a YouTube clip running in the background and then loads a new page every 10-15 seconds, so the laptop will probably last a little longer with regular use. Somewhere in between the light text-editing and browsing scenarios is realistic. But then, if you’ll have 30 tabs open and perhaps some other sowftare running in the background as well (excell, spotify, word, etc), 5-6 hours of life is realistic. If you can wait, I’ll also have the Gram 16 1260p review next week, it should allow to double check these results on the Gram 17.
Yeah, I guess my disappointment comes from the fact that even some Ryzen gaming laptops (such as my Ryzen 7 5800H HP Victus) can get close or similar battery runtimes for these medium workloads when running on integrated graphics, so when you pay extra for the underpowered lightweight factor and big battery you kind of expect a big leap in power efficiency. I’ll be eagerly awaiting the review of the 16 model, luckily for me the discounts will last until the end of november.
Thank for detailed review. Andrei Girbea wrote at October 21, 2022 at 10:08 am: /1240p and 1260p are nearly the same./ Just look at the notebookcheck review from August for the same model with i5. It loses significantly to i7 by performance (about.30-35%), according to your review with a long load in CBR15. In general, I think that a model with 16GB is practically meaningless to buy (11-12GB is free after loading the OS, this is very small for productive work). A model with a 32GB2TB SSD price around 1800-1900 euros in Europe without promotions and discounts. This is the only adequate option for buying today with the prospect of using it for 3 years. There is no option with 64GB at all, however, it is not really needed here – the performance is too low to interest someone with a lot of background professional software. Noise characteristics in general in your review correspond to the data on notebookcheck for the model with i5, i.e. from my point of view, the laptop is noisy in normal office/home use, you need to achieve no more than 29-31dBA under at least 30-35% (on average) load on all cores (and 30-40% on the built-in video block – for example, when decoding [email protected] in H265/AV1). All these negative aspects generally result from the fanatical struggle of marketers (and therefore engineers) with the weight of a laptop (this is a Gram series). A sturdy case with a magnesium alloy frame to support the motherboard and case strength (like the Thinkpad T series) will drastically add weight. A better cooling system (1-2 massive heatpipes, bigger cooler and heatsinks) will drastically increase the weight. You complain about small speakers – big ones will add weight. Large battery (with no real fundamental progress in batteries) – will increase the weight drastically. Even 2 memory slots and a second M.2 (which might be placed near battery) will add weight. That is, all the shortcomings of this series stem from a key advantage – low weight. Those who are not ready to put up with this can take a bunch of other laptops (for example, the new Legion 7 with Zen3, which is much quieter and faster according review), but Gram cannot be improved in any way without significant fundamental and technological improvements in all industries (about how not to improve the iPhone so that Apple does not tried to do). Even the noise, as you can clearly see, is gradually increasing in level compared to the old models in all laptops, with rare successful exceptions like the Legion 7 2022 with AMD. Because the TDP and CPU consumption of both Intel and AMD continues to rise (and this is pure madness). And this is not progress, but regression in IT. Consumption should not grow with grow of performance, it should either stay the same or get smaller – this is real progress, which I write about often and everywhere. Here it is important to understand very subtly the target audience for each model from the point of view of marketers and its size. If they are stupid or just sawing the company’s budgets, there will be no sense – sales will be minimal. For example, why does LG make the Gram 16 series with a mutilated numpad, when there is a 17 series with a full-fledged one? Who would agree to carry a 16 (which is uncomfortable in itself) instead of a full-fledged by keyboard 17? From my point of view, the 16 series is pointless to buy. And what is the target audience on the planet for the Gram 17 series – from your point of view, as an expert? The strong side of this model is a high-quality by contrast screen. But compromising by ppi and poor response speed – 30-50ms is awful vs AMOLED with 2-3 ms, but AMOLED is all – not flicker free (or not have super contrast), all is glare (no matte panels), not have true RGB resolution (pentile and etc.) for most panels and has low resource in work time – real is 1/2 by working hours vs IPS. Of course, if such an excellent contrast of 1500:1 will be achievable in practice in almost all retail copies, which there is no certainty, looking at the monstrous spread of real contrast even in Lenovo models, where the minimum contrast is CLEARLY indicated in psref datasheets, but it is worse in practice when measured with a calibrator (i.e. this is a clear defect from the factory in maby batches, even in terms of manufacturer’s specifications). How can you then trust reviews of single copies and not a dense sample in retail lots with a frequency of for example, one quarter for check it again? A real test of surfing usually involves 2-3 open browsers (often including Tor, especially in totalitarian countries). And a lot of active tabs in each. Plus, a fairly high frequency of news updates, etc. The real load on the cores can easily reach 25-35% on average (especially if you do not use ad blockers and analytical scripts). And this is not counting some open background, most often professional software – for example, heavy development studios, trading platforms who trade on the market (and monitor everything that is possible on the planet), some other specific software that collects some data in the background and processes them regularly (I’m not talking about instant messengers, etc.). In a real use case, if this is not a typical housewife, even your 5-6 hours, which are much closer to reality than the obviously inflated results from other sites, turn into a real 3-4 hours at most, which is unacceptably short when running on battery power. Do you agree? But in this case, the best use case is only from the psu, where you don’t care about the battery and where the maximum performance and where it makes no sense to refuse to install a 165Hz 2.5k or [email protected] panel in a laptop that consumes much more. But if you constantly use a laptop from a psu – what is the point of its autonomy and lightness if you are constantly tied to a power outlet anyway? In this case, its weight no longer plays any role in comparison with much more advanced gaming heavy models like the Legion 5 pro/7 series, which also has a full-fledged keyboard (and it is even better in some ways). This is the main trouble of modern marketers – they frantically rush about in search of the target audience without understanding the true demands of the market. Otherwise, there would not be hundreds of crazy models on the market in different market niches, completely inadequate in terms of ergonomics and quality/price ratio. Superfluous people in large corporations simply cut budgets – they don’t care about the result, it’s important for them to get a stable salary and successfully jump out of the company with RSU packages. That’s all they care about in practice. The progress of civilization (with a real active contribution to this with all one’s strength and hardships because of this), as such, is of interest only to a narrow stratum of the population less than 2-3%.
Thanks for the feedback. 1. the 1240p and 1260p should perform similarly with the same software. Not sure what caused the NBC unit to perform poorly, perhaps a more immature BIOS version at that time. 2. you’re not wrong in your Комментарии и мнения владельцев about battery life, but that’s what current software is capable of. LG did well here to include a big battery and the overall software is optimized well. But if you’ll push this through serious multitasking, 3-5 hours of battery life is realistic. The alternative is perhaps a Ryzen U platform, but even that won’t be much more efficienct with serious multitasking. Plus, you’d be loosing on IPC/single-core performance with the current Ryzen 6000 gen. Overall, the Gram 17 is a good product if a lightweight notebook with a big-screen is what you’re after. Some corners had to be cut to get it here, but this generation is a good upgrade over the previous Grams and competitive within its class, even with its quirks.
I agree. It’s kind of unacceptable that 1000€ mobile (non-gaming) laptops still only come with soldered RAM, even sometimes only 8GB, still mediocre screens with only 300-400 nits of brightness and less than 120Hz refresh rate and the battery runtime is less than 8 hours even in ultra-thin, ultra-light models. They always fall short for their price tag, still with underwhelming specs that truly matter on a portable-first device, still sacrifice too much performance and heat dissipation and require 2000€ or more for the bare minimum RAM (32GB) and SSD (1TB) required for productive work. Gaming laptops have been evolving very well to enable the same level of productivity to replace desktop PCs when plugged in on a desk, but when it comes to laptops meant for mobility, the vast majority of them just fall short of their price tag. Though I will say that a 17 screen and full keyboard on a low weight is a good proposal if you are going to use your laptop for productive work, as the added screen width will allow you to open more Windows side by side without everything getting tiny (in situations where you can’t connect an external monitor).
Note everyone does not necessarely has your needs NikoB, 16Gb RAM work very well for a lot of office work.
hi, i am a little confused on how to read your brightness minimum data. Min brightness in the middle of the screen: 30.14 cd/m2 and in the screen uniformity diagram its: 25% : 18.64 cd/m2 in the middle so at the 25% brightness level its lower than the min brightness mentioned above?? would be nice to clearly say how dark the screen really gets on lowest possible level. i find it idiotic of the manufactorers to regulate the displays at around 20 cd/m, which seems normal nowadays. Lenovo for example with its thinkpads clearly shows, that ips screens also go down to 3 cd/m if not regulated. i am often watching movies in bed and everything over 8-10 cd/m is too bright in a pitch black room. thanks for the reviews!
What I do is set the screen on min-brightness and then run a report – that got the 30.14 cd/m2 result, which is rather high. This method yields different results than the uniformity test, for some reason – not sure why, but it’s something I should look into. I use DisplayCal for the measurements.
I own this laptop. Mine has a 12th Gen i7 – I did not want this as I have other machines for high performance, but I had to choose that processor buy it to get 32GB of RAM. Mine has a 1TB SSD. The i7 means it runs hotter than my wife’s 17 i5 Gram from last year and you do hear the fans from time to time – particularly when LG Glance goes into one of its loops. I love this laptop – I use it for coding and general surfing. It’s the one I use for travel – fits in my rucksack fine. Face login is flawless (note the LG Glance comment) and super swift. The screen is very clear – I can have loads of lines of code showing at any one time which is invaluable. I rarely have it at anywhere near full brightness (it still looks BRIGHT as contrast is good). Consequently, per charge, I get 5-6 hours of use (a day’s work for me) and I only ever charge the battery to 80%. I note Комментарии и мнения владельцев asking why this machine exists – for me it fits one part of my laptop requirements – lightness with a big screen and an easy carry. The keyboard is … ok, and the touchpad decent although I always uses a mouse. I can work with this – I don’t like ultra-books. ‘Alternatives’ such as the XPS 17 are no use to me – I have had one – yes, its powerful, yes it’s surprisingly small but it weighs a lot and compared to my gaming laptop (I use that for video production as well as gaming), its performance is pathetic. Obviously – your needs probably will be different – but this does what it promises, well. (I can recommend the LG portable monitor which I also have, too – a very light 2 monitor setup). Full price is ridiculous tho’.
HI Andrei I was looking at your Article yesterday on this LG I7 12 Processor Laptop. I am thinking to buy it in Next couple of days. I am using Dell Inspiron 5767 7 series i7. with 4GB Redion. I am using for Corel Draw – and 3D PDF – some CAD files. Do you think will it be at least twice as fast or even 50% faster than the one I have now. Am I making right choice ? My Dell is getting on a bit and this Open Box LG I am getting for only 660. I am Visiting Seattle for few day s and thinking to take to UK.
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LG Gram Style vs LG Gram Ultraslim: Which laptop should you buy?
In previous years, LG has only really had two different families of laptops: the standard clamshell, and a 2-in-1 alternative. Those laptops have come in different sizes (such as 14-inch and 16-inch) but there haven’t been many differences between the laptops otherwise.
This is changing in 2023, with LG launching two new laptop series with differing features but what are the key differences between the Gram Style and Gram Ultraslim? Keep on reading to find out.
The LG Gram Ultraslim is incredibly skinny
The main appeal of the LG Gram Ultraslim is its slender design, measuring in at just 12.55mm thick – that’s even thinner than your finger.
The LG Gram Style isn’t exactly chunky, but it is thicker than its Ultraslim sibling – LG claims the 14-inch and 16-inch Style models are 15.9mm thick.
The reduced size of the LG Gram Ultraslim also makes it a more portable laptop. It weighs 998 grams, while the 14-inch LG Gram Style hits the scales at 999g. That’s admittedly just a 1 gram difference, but it’s still nevertheless impressive that LG’s 15-inch Ultraslim laptop is even lighter than the 14-inch Style laptop.
There is a downside to having such a slim design though, with the Ultraslim packing a 60Wh cell, compared to the 72Wh battery inside the 14-inch Style.
The LG Gram Style has a higher screen resolution
Both LG laptops have an OLED screen, and so they benefit from inky blacks and high contrast, but there is a major difference between displays when it comes to pixel count.
The LG Gram Ultraslim has a Full HD (1920×1080) screen resolution, which is the basic spec for a laptop at this price.
For comparison, the 14-inch Gram Style has a Quad HD (2880 x 1800) resolution and the 16-inch model has a Quad HD (3200 x 2000) resolution. This means the Style range should have a sharper image when presenting supported images and videos, and so it’s probably the better option if you want to watch the likes of Netflix and Disney Plus on your laptop.
The LG Gram Style is also available with higher refresh rates, maxing out at 120Hz – the Ultraslim tops out at just 60Hz.
LG Gram Style has a glass design and disappearing touchpad
The LG Gram Style may not be as slender as its sibling, but it flaunts a fancy design. It has a glass casing, which looks more elegant than the metal-clad Ultraslim.
By using a glass deck, LG has been able to create an LED backlight, with vivid customisable colours illuminating the surface.
The LG Gram Style also has a haptic trackpad, which is only visible when you touch the laptop’s surface. Since it isn’t a physical trackpad like you find with traditional laptops, you’re able to tweak the settings; for example, you can adjust the sensitivity and the intensity of the vibrations.
Different sizes available for each LG Gram laptop
You’d think the LG Gram Style and LG Gram Ultraslim would be available with the exact same screen sizes, but that’s not the case.
If you’re going for the LG Gram Style, you have the options of 14-inch and 16-inch sizes. There unfortunately isn’t a 17-inch option for those who crave maximum screen space.
The LG Gram Ultraslim is only available in one screen size, and that’s 15.6-inches.
Exact same performance specs
Now we’ve explored the main differences, it’s time to delve into the similarities of the two laptops. Both the Style and Ultraslim are powered by the same 13th Gen Intel Core Raptor Lake processors.
The memory options are the exact same too, with 8GB, 16GB and 32GB all on offer. The same applies to storage configurations, with 256GB, 512GB and 1TB options.
Of course, the shared specs don’t guarantee an identical performance. Performance throttling can occur with thin laptops when the cooling system isn’t sufficient enough. That could potentially be the case with the LG Gram Ultraslim, although it’s impossible to say for certain without testing.
Nevertheless, when picking between the Style and Ultraslim, it’s best to consider the design, battery and screen specs more so than the performance.
LG Ultra–Slim Portable DVD Burner Drive M-DISC
Summary Drive Type External SUSTAINED TRANSFER RATE CD-ROM 3.6 MB/s (24x) max. DVD-ROM 11.08 Mbytes/s (8x) max. CONTENTS Contents Power2Go, PowerBackup, YouCam, LabelPrint, Norton internet Security (60 days) OPERATING SYSTEMS OPERATING SYSTEMS Windows Windows 8.1, Windows 8, Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows XP, Windows Server 2008, Windows Server 2003, Mac OS X(10.7.5) COLOR Color Black BURST TRANSFER RATE USB 2.0 interface up to 480Mbits/s, USB 3.0 Compatible BUFFER SIZE BUFFER SIZE 0.75MB Buffer Under-run prevention function embedded TRANSFER RATES. WRITE (MAX) CD-R 10x CLV, 16x PCAV, 24x CAV CD-RW 4x, 10x CLV, 16x ZCLV, 24x ZCLV DVD-R (SL) 2x CLV, 4x PCAV, 8x CAV DVDR (DL) 2.4x CLV, 4x PCAV, 6x PCAV DVDRW 2.4x CLV, 4x ZCLV, 8x ZCLV DVDR (SL) 2.4x CLV, 4x PCAV, 8x CAV DVD-R (DL) 2x CLV, 4x, 6x ZCLV DVD-RAM 2x, 3x CLV, 5x PCAV DVD-RW 2x, 3x CLV, 4x, 6x ZCLV COMPLIANCE RoHS Yes EMC/EMI CE Marking, C-Tick Mark, Korean EMC(KC), Taiwan EMC (BSMI), VCCI Safety UL UL 60950-1 First Edition TÜV EN 60950-1 / EN60825-1 SEMKO EN 60950-1 / EN60825-1 Laser Safety Class 1 laser product comply with DHHS rules 21 CFR Subchapter J Class 1 laser product to EN60825-1 / IEC 60825-1 DIMENSIONS (W x H x D) DIMENSIONS (W x H x D) 5.6 x 0.6 x 5.4 (141 x 14 x 136.5mm) Weight 0.4 lbs. (200g) SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS CPU Intel Pentium4 2.4GHz or Higher Recommended Intel Pentium4 3.2GHz or Higher RAM 1GB or Higher Video Memory 64 MB or higher (128 MB recommended) HDD 20GB or more of available space TRANSFER RATES. READ (MAX) DVD-RW 8x CAV DVD-Video (CSS Compliant Disc) (SL/DL) 4x CAV (SL/DL) DVD-ROM (SL/DL) 8x CAV DVD-RAM 6x CAV DVD-R (SL/DL) 8x CAV DVDRW 8x CAV DVDR (SL/DL) 8x CAV CD-R/RW/ROM 24x/24x/24xCAV CD-DA 24x CAV OTHER FEATURES Other Features TV Connectivitiy, Silent Play, Jamless Play ACCESS TIME (1/3 STROKE) DVD-RAM 260ms typ. DVD-ROM 160ms typ. CD-ROM 140ms typ. UPC GP60NB60 58231312744
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